Thumpalumpacus wrote:
Very poor example.
Black people cannot help being black,
and their being black is not hurting anyone,
and they shouldn't have to be ashamed of it,
or experience social inequality because of their race.
Religion is a choice, and an ideology that has been abused to oppress people and enforce bigotry.
If a non-criminal black understands better than a white person why black gangbangers, as you put it,
are in prison as a result of social circumstances,
then no, that in and of itself does not, of course, make them apologists for the actual crimes of their fellow blacks.
But it sounds as if you are trying to use the example
of innocent black people defending innocent victims of social injustice behind bars
...and compare it to moderate Muslims sympathizing with the anger, if not the actions, of terrorists;
which is inconsistent,
not to mention irrelevant,
since being persecuted for your race
is not the same thing
as people taking issue with the violence of your ideology.
And besides, anyone on the outside, regardless of race, may protest that an incarcerated person is being wrongly persecuted via social circumstances, when that is not the case.
Once again, look at Kim Davis. Her defenders allege she is a victim of social injustice and bigotry.
And as far as the anger of Muslims goes,
I think that is a different ball of wax:
What issue specifically, are you referring to, that the Muslims angry about?
Western politics and military after oil in the Middle East?
Or, are Muslim men here sympathetic to the wrath of Muslim men in the Middle East
because Western non-muslims are critical of female genital mutilation???
One type of anger, I could understand.
The other, I have no sympathy for,
because it is only angry that its bigotry and violence against women is being interfered-with.
Quote:Blacks in America all labor under discrimination. Does the fact that non-criminal blacks understand better than whites why black gangbangers are in in prison from social circumstances mean that they are apologists for the crimes of their fellow blacks? No, of course it doesn't. And in the same vein, having been raised in the same culture, moderate Muslims can both understand the anger of the extremists at the same time they disavow the results of it.
Very poor example.
Black people cannot help being black,
and their being black is not hurting anyone,
and they shouldn't have to be ashamed of it,
or experience social inequality because of their race.
Religion is a choice, and an ideology that has been abused to oppress people and enforce bigotry.
If a non-criminal black understands better than a white person why black gangbangers, as you put it,
are in prison as a result of social circumstances,
then no, that in and of itself does not, of course, make them apologists for the actual crimes of their fellow blacks.
But it sounds as if you are trying to use the example
of innocent black people defending innocent victims of social injustice behind bars
...and compare it to moderate Muslims sympathizing with the anger, if not the actions, of terrorists;
which is inconsistent,
not to mention irrelevant,
since being persecuted for your race
is not the same thing
as people taking issue with the violence of your ideology.
And besides, anyone on the outside, regardless of race, may protest that an incarcerated person is being wrongly persecuted via social circumstances, when that is not the case.
Once again, look at Kim Davis. Her defenders allege she is a victim of social injustice and bigotry.
And as far as the anger of Muslims goes,
I think that is a different ball of wax:
What issue specifically, are you referring to, that the Muslims angry about?
Western politics and military after oil in the Middle East?
Or, are Muslim men here sympathetic to the wrath of Muslim men in the Middle East
because Western non-muslims are critical of female genital mutilation???
One type of anger, I could understand.
The other, I have no sympathy for,
because it is only angry that its bigotry and violence against women is being interfered-with.
