(November 5, 2015 at 2:59 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: so jesus himself did not speak of any kind of "new covenent"

Quote: or that he would be a sacrifice for the sins of humanityIt starts at John 3:14 This is where Jesus tells nicodemus that He was to be like the bronze snake Moses was told to make, nail to a pole and raise up over the people so they could look up at it and live, He too was also to be put up 'on a pole and lifted up' so all could live. but as He explains to Nick, his role was to give all who believe eternal life.
Quote:in fact jesus told a caananite woman he only came for the jews not for the gentiles and he didnt say anything about dying for jew sins either .because again the full will/plan of God was not revealed to everyone. only those who could or were worthy to deal with it.
Quote: he said he was the messiah the jews were not expecting any half God half man hybrid creature but a descendent of david fully humanSo what? Who cares what the Jews were expecting. If the OT tells us anything God seldom if EVER worked like the Jews expected Him to work. look at the exodus.. or judges, or anything really. Only his prophets had any idea. Like for instance John the Baptist. While the rest remained clueless.
Quote:and neither did jesus see himself as God or part God (the trinity was a foreign concept to jesus he repeatedly said that God is ONE never 3 in 1) , it was invented by paul and other people later , jesus had no awareness of it just like i said .

where are you getting this stuff? off a muslim website?
John 14:26 Jesus says He must leave so the Father can send the Holy Spirit.
" I assure you that nothing will disappear from the law until heaven and earth are gone. The law will not lose even the smallest letter or the smallest part of a letter until it is finished.
Then just before He died what were His last words? "It is finished."
Quote:dont you think that jesus meant by "finished" as the heaven and earth being gone . when jesus died on the cross both heaven and earth remained right? I assure you that nothing will disappear from the law until heaven and earth are gone . well both still exist right ?Read it again, The Law will remain until Heaven and earth are gone... The law will not Change in the slightest till IT IS FINISHED!!!
The Law REMAINS AGAIN READ ROMANS 7 Paul Tells us what the Law is for..
..AND We now live (2000 years) AFTER the Point where the Law could not change (even in the slightest way) AGAIN, That is Why Jesus Taught the old way to get to Heaven (Because IT WAS NOT Finished) When He taught it. This does Not mean the Law must Remain as it was BEFORE it was Finished!