(November 7, 2015 at 2:22 pm)Laika Wrote: I haven't read the whole thread, but Drich seems to be relying on the assumption that everything in the Bible is the gospel truth. This is not proven and very very very unlikely. To jump to the conclusion that "Yes, it IS true, now let me explain what it's ACTUALLY saying", without even proving that it's all true in the first place, is logically fallacious.
(November 7, 2015 at 11:15 am)Drich Wrote: What is the title of the thread and how does that relate to what is being discussed?It relates very well, actually. [/quote] I see your going to be another deep thinker... You'll fit here like a glove, welcome to AF.
All right let go through a complete walk through of what you started with, what I said and this last mess you left me.
Quote:I haven't read the whole thread, but Drich seems to be relying on the assumption that everything in the Bible is the gospel truth. This is not proven and very very very unlikely. To jump to the conclusion that "Yes, it IS true, now let me explain what it's ACTUALLY saying", without even proving that it's all true in the first place, is logically fallacious.Side stepping the ironic "The bible is the gospel truth" comment. whether you know it or not you are loosly describing a Fallacy of false composition. This wrongly presupposes one thing.
Quote:you think that is part of the reason we don't believe.
That is why I asked you how did your objection relate to my title. My title being "Biblical Christianity 101, a study in romans"
I even open my thread with why I am doing this study, and it's not because I am concerned about the status of your belief. My study is to inform you of biblical Christianity. So how is this NOT A "logical fallacy" Because Again I am not making any claim to the status of your belief, and therefore do not have to "prove" the Whole bible to you. My efforts here center around informing you 'good people' what bible based Christians believe. Why? because you 'good people' sound like a bunch of hate filled biggots arguing in circles about what you think Christianity is all about. when in fact most of you are completely wrong./Do not have the first clue about the Christianity described in the bible. That is why I started with the book of Romans. as It contains the foundations of biblical Christianity.
Quote:You start the thread saying that atheists do not have an understanding of the Bible, and you think that is part of the reason we don't believe.Nuupe..
I said "How can you properly hate something/God or his followers if you do not understand it?
Quote: Now, I'll be honest: I've never read the entire Bible. I was thrown off completely by Genesis and the stupidity of it and I don't plan on finishing it or learning it's teachings. Why? Because it's a factually incorrect piece of primitive and ignorant literature. There is 0 reason to believe it because there's about a 99.9% chance that it's not the word of a god.

Quote:And until you can prove it is, why should anyone here care about Paul's letters in Romans? You are trying to explain your own personal interpretation of passages of a book that you cannot provide evidence for to support its validity!What I've done so far was to simply read the first two chapters and answer questions for almost 50 pages.
So you tell me, if it is as you say why is their so 'little' intrest in the first 2 chapters??
Quote:Let me put this into perspective for you. If I came up to you waiving the Bible of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and I told you that the reason you don't believe in him is because you don't "understand" what is written in the book or its teachings, I would be wrong. You could read that bible all the way through and still not believe in the FSM. You could listen to me explain every interpretation of the chapters and verses, and still you would not believe. Why? Because you just can't get over the fact that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist, and that everything written in that book is bullshit. Me sitting down and explaining its teachings is NOT proving the existence of the FSM, but proving it is necessary before any thinking person should believe in it.I got the picture sport.. It seem your the one who is trying to make your tired old basic atheist argument Fit, what it is I am actually doing here without actually trying to put any effort in to it on your side.
Get the picture?
What else you got?