(November 11, 2015 at 9:37 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: yes he did decide to heal the gentile despite not wanting to because he didnt come for the gentiles but just for the jews so in the end he did have mercy on the gentile dog . thatll probabally be what the apologists say is the proof that jesus came to save all humanity because he showed mercy to that gentile dog
Look that's a completely subjective interpretation. The fact is he didn't turn her away.
(November 12, 2015 at 12:32 am)jenny1972 Wrote: what do you mean some of the words were "lost" in translation !? dont you think that if translating means that Gods Word will not be translated perfectly then it shouldnt be translated at all ? a change in 1 word or removal of words can change the entire understanding of the intended message . Isnt adding to or taking away of Gods Word spoken against in the bible?
Hebrew is a very difficult language to read today - and Strong's dictionary is considered a pretty piss-poor one for Hebrew. Although I do note you linked to the Blue Letter dictionary instead (which is much better). But even with a dictionary you really need an OT scholar to tell you what the meaning is for each instance a word is used. You have to remember that many words are spelled the same in Hebrew, but have different meanings and are spoken differently - an English example is minute vs minute. Two completely different words with different meanings, but are spelled the same. In Hebrew there are no vowels, therefore words that would be spelled different with vowels get spelled the same minute reduces to MNT - how many other English words can you make from that? Amenity for example - completely different English word, but spelled the same without vowels. You can also make names such as Monty or Manet.
When I use 'minute' in a sentence, you have to decipher which word it is from the context - and your brain does that pretty well. If I say 'it's a minute detail' then you read it as 'minute', if I say "In 364 days, 17 hours and 20-something minutes you'll have to remember to hold a minutes silence for remembrance day" then you'll read it as 'minute'.
Of course, this goes to prove that GC has no idea what they're talking about: as he's not a Hebrew scholar he has no authority to say what the meaning of the Hebrew usage in each passage is, he needs to go to the experts and quote them. And he might be able to find one or two out there that agree with his opinion that it's a metaphor: however most scholars involved in modern translations of the Bible who have looked at the passages you mentioned did not think that was the case, otherwise they would have translated accordingly.
He is right that for some Hebrew words the meaning is not known; and their meaning is generally deciphered from the LXX translation.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke




