(November 12, 2015 at 8:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(November 12, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: DON'T YOU TELL ME WHAT TO DO!...........Note to self, did I think that, or type it?
Absolutely! Why do you think I have that avatar?
It is indeed your right to adore an abhorrent band. Go your own way, brotha.
(November 12, 2015 at 2:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Hitler is still ultimately to blame for WW2.
I, and many others, disagree. The Versailles Treaty, when imposed, was an abrogation of the Fourteen Points which President Wilson had plumped. The bitterness of Germans was assured by what looked to them like a bait-and-switch, and in such a political climate, redress would certainly have been sought, if not by Hitler, by another strongman -- especially considering the fractured politics of the Weimar Republic.
Hitler, according to some historians, didn't even instigate WWII; they reserve that "honor" to the Japanese invasion of China; the point being that that world diplomacy was so broken and antagonisms so heated that it would have broken out somewhere. In this view, which I'm not sure is right, WWII dates to 1937 or even as far back as 1931.
Well bait and switch aside, whomever started it, the axes of Evil had oppressive intent and Hitler still did what he did and he was not a nice person.


