RE: Why so many "anti-feminists" in the atheist community?
November 15, 2015 at 4:25 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2015 at 4:28 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
Are you seriously saying you want me to give you an internet course in the ongoing history of how we treat women in society, before you will "see" it?
Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
We can talk here in an internet forum about a complex subject when you have read even the basics, which it is clear from your language you have not, starting with books like Against Our Will by Susan Brownmiller, The Feminine Mystique by Betty Friedan, and Herstory (it's a collection of articles/essays, with an excellent intro by Gloria Steinem)... if you want something more modern, try Men Explain Things to Me by Rebecca Solnit or Feminism is for Everybody by Bell Hooks.
After you've done some reading (you need not follow my suggestions; they're just the ones that came immediately to mind out of dozens) to understand why a man saying "Where's the problem? I don't see it" IS EXACTLY THE FUCKING PROBLEM, then we can start having this conversation. Not before.
Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
We can talk here in an internet forum about a complex subject when you have read even the basics, which it is clear from your language you have not, starting with books like Against Our Will by Susan Brownmiller, The Feminine Mystique by Betty Friedan, and Herstory (it's a collection of articles/essays, with an excellent intro by Gloria Steinem)... if you want something more modern, try Men Explain Things to Me by Rebecca Solnit or Feminism is for Everybody by Bell Hooks.
After you've done some reading (you need not follow my suggestions; they're just the ones that came immediately to mind out of dozens) to understand why a man saying "Where's the problem? I don't see it" IS EXACTLY THE FUCKING PROBLEM, then we can start having this conversation. Not before.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
