Atheist Heroes?

[Reforged]

Do you see what happened, in Iran.  Why would we do that again?  Not only did the whole thing blow up in our faces, our image was irreparably damaged because of it, particularly so in the opinions of the Iranians themselves.  We didn't win there, we lost, and look at the what we wrought in doing so.  

You think no one bothered, but again I ask you how short your memory is.  We tried -alot- of things...they weren't working.  We had other reasons aplenty, but, is true and inarguable evil not a good enough reason to intervene?  What is, then?  

It's stale and old because you refuse to come down from the cloud you've planted your feet in, and you cannot accept that you were more than just a little bit misinformed about the things we've been discussing.  I can only repeat myself until you do, or until you lose interest.  Looks like the latter is going to happen before the former ever materializes.  Bit like our invasion of Iraq.

Our image is damaged now. The only difference is now the war has dragged out with the most dire of consequences. Even if it had gone to plan our image would of been a mountain of shit compared to that incident. 
The difference is that the covert operation had a higher chance of success and less chance coming back to us with a lower amount of bloodshed. We've done it alot and yes, sometimes its blown up in our faces but there were less variables and less chance of blowback especially given our previous experience and our advancement in the field. A coup was one of the best options from what I could see. As far as I know the majority of what we attempted was diplomatic and economic. I'm not an expert but then again I haven't seen an expert explain why other options weren't possible. I've looked, if I had found one I would of sat down for hours watching. As far as I know no article, video or news report exists that contains that. If there is it has been atrociously publicized. As a result I can only speculate why other methods weren't tried just like the rest of you. That should not be the case for a subject so vastly debated.

Look, you can tell me to the cows come home that we invaded them because they're evil but come on. Look at all the other countries who perpetrated similar acts, alot of them we actually installed the leader. Some of them would of been laughably easy to overthrow. Evil was not the reason. Our security and our strength was in question and because nothing like this had happened before we shat the bed. If it doesn't effect us its unfortunate, if it does its evil. I'm not saying that its not favorable thats the regime gets taken out but lets not get confused here. There were many other reasons that were more pressing to the national interest. If I were to accept evil was good enough reason to rush in then I would have to accept that as a good enough reason to rush in *alot* of places. How far do you think I would get pitching that?