RE: Meaningfulness v meaninglessness; theism vs atheism;
January 11, 2011 at 1:01 am
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2011 at 1:12 am by dqualk.)
lol this forum is useless. I actually came here becuaes my friend said that there were really intelligent people here and he was curious how they would respond to what I say. Well apparently you respond with massive amounts of insults. I did not insult anyone personally, except minimalist and shell b who insulted me first, and I essentially insulted them by saying they are insulting.
How evil you are to speak so cruelly to another. You know as a Christian who important God is to me. Yet you do not even take the least amount of respect into consideration. All I'm saying is that God can be the something that makes things make sense, the unmvoed mover. This is the same reason Aristotle postulated that an atemporal being must exist. Within atheism there is no sense. There is just illusion. There is really no thought and ultimately everything is passing into the great nihil. Christianity is far from being obviously true when based on reason alone, and I never claimed it was. A lot of the stuff thevoid is argueing against me about I never used as an arguement. I never said you should believe God becasue of x rational reason.
I get the feeling that most of you who have posted on here are not concerned with any kind of dialouge, you just jump at the chance to insult people becuase you are so arrogant. You have lied to yourself that you have some kind of rational high ground from which you can belittle people. The fact is I am in good company. I did not come on here or start this post to prove God with reason. Far from it. Once again my point is to say that a Christian DOES say that there is intrinsic value. The value judgements are of God are not the same value judgements as ours as there are ultimate. Yes this kind of power does not exist within a temporal realm, but we do not have the tools by which to peek into an eternal realm to see how things work in a temporal realm, so we cannot think about it. I for one believe in intrinsic value, somethings are good, somethigns are beautiful, some things are bad, some things are evil. I know this is true because it is a priori to me. I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing within this temporal realm that could make something intrinsically good etc so I know that there must be another realm that does not experience change, and is an eternal realm from which all good things flow.
If you would stop being blinded by hate for me you would see where my position is. I am not saying atheist are dumb or that they don't make sense, I have respect for SOME* atheists I have none, as of now for most of you. And frankly I'm not sure anyone would after the way you've treated me. Shame shame shame
You all have no respect for any view other than your own, or a view close to it.
How evil you are to speak so cruelly to another. You know as a Christian who important God is to me. Yet you do not even take the least amount of respect into consideration. All I'm saying is that God can be the something that makes things make sense, the unmvoed mover. This is the same reason Aristotle postulated that an atemporal being must exist. Within atheism there is no sense. There is just illusion. There is really no thought and ultimately everything is passing into the great nihil. Christianity is far from being obviously true when based on reason alone, and I never claimed it was. A lot of the stuff thevoid is argueing against me about I never used as an arguement. I never said you should believe God becasue of x rational reason.
I get the feeling that most of you who have posted on here are not concerned with any kind of dialouge, you just jump at the chance to insult people becuase you are so arrogant. You have lied to yourself that you have some kind of rational high ground from which you can belittle people. The fact is I am in good company. I did not come on here or start this post to prove God with reason. Far from it. Once again my point is to say that a Christian DOES say that there is intrinsic value. The value judgements are of God are not the same value judgements as ours as there are ultimate. Yes this kind of power does not exist within a temporal realm, but we do not have the tools by which to peek into an eternal realm to see how things work in a temporal realm, so we cannot think about it. I for one believe in intrinsic value, somethings are good, somethigns are beautiful, some things are bad, some things are evil. I know this is true because it is a priori to me. I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing within this temporal realm that could make something intrinsically good etc so I know that there must be another realm that does not experience change, and is an eternal realm from which all good things flow.
If you would stop being blinded by hate for me you would see where my position is. I am not saying atheist are dumb or that they don't make sense, I have respect for SOME* atheists I have none, as of now for most of you. And frankly I'm not sure anyone would after the way you've treated me. Shame shame shame
You all have no respect for any view other than your own, or a view close to it.
