RE: Freedom
December 15, 2015 at 11:05 am
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2015 at 11:06 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(December 15, 2015 at 10:33 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Surgeon, I know you have had particularly bad experience with Christians. I'm sorry, I don't mean to undermine what you went through, or deny that it happened. I guess I can only speak for what I personally have seen/experienced and for the Christians/Catholics who I am close to.
Thank you for your kind words!
That said, a Christian saying "I don't see it" is a little bit like a white person telling Black Lives Matter protesters that it's all in their heads, as if they're making it up, rather than relating what they've experienced, repeatedly, in the shadows, so to speak.
Edit to Add: I know that's not what you're saying, in either case. Just saying that it's less visible to you than to us. You clearly recognize that.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
