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Why x*0 = x
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RE: Why x*0 = x
(December 19, 2015 at 10:57 am)pool Wrote: Algebra version is correct if and only if x*0=0 so of course it's going to give a wrong result if x*0=x because the algebraic version is designed to give the correct result only if x*0=0.
That's like going into an open minded argument convinced you're the one that's right.
There can't be any * 's on the R.H.S on the algebra

I disagree, the algebra version doesn't depend on x*0=0, it's based on the pattern in your post.

Just look at what you are doing. You are trying to multiply two numbers, 5 and 6. You take the first number (5), then you add the second number to it repeatedly until you have added the second number 1 less times than the first number (in this case, you add 6 exactly 4 times), and then finally you add the difference between the numbers.

So if we do the same thing with 0 and 1, you take the first number (0) and then you add the second number to it -1 times, which means you subtract 1 (unless you are arguing that -1 * 1 is not -1), and then finally you add 1, which is the difference between 0 and 1. The result is 0 + -1 + 1, which is 0.

Either way, I disagree that I can't use * on the R.H.S, because multiplication is a standard function in algebra, but the way I've done it above just uses addition.

You are correct that I'm not going into this open minded, but that's because I understand the math and you apparently don't. It's a known fact that 0*x = 0. You are trying to show that this is wrong, but it's clearly not.

I mean, look at the following:

You've stated in your post that 1*1 = 1+ 0 and 0*1 =+ 1. To simplify, 1*1 = 1, and 0*1=1

So if both these statements equal 1, we can substitute them to get:

1*1 = 0*1

Now divide each side by 1:

1 = 0

You have a massive contradiction, 1 is not equal to 0, and there are many reasons why it isn't. So either 1*1 =/= 1, or 0*1 =/= 1. There are many proofs for the former, so the latter is clearly incorrect.
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Why x*0 = x - by ErGingerbreadMandude - December 13, 2015 at 6:10 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Cyberman - December 13, 2015 at 6:41 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by LastPoet - December 13, 2015 at 6:41 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 13, 2015 at 7:03 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by houseofcantor - December 13, 2015 at 7:28 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by LastPoet - December 13, 2015 at 7:32 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Longhorn - December 13, 2015 at 7:40 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by brewer - December 13, 2015 at 8:39 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 13, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 13, 2015 at 8:53 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Excited Penguin - December 13, 2015 at 9:12 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Longhorn - December 13, 2015 at 9:33 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Gambit - December 13, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Excited Penguin - December 13, 2015 at 9:27 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Cyberman - December 13, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Gambit - December 13, 2015 at 10:07 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Cyberman - December 13, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Excited Penguin - December 13, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Aractus - December 13, 2015 at 9:05 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Excited Penguin - December 13, 2015 at 9:13 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 13, 2015 at 9:36 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Aractus - December 13, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Longhorn - December 13, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Excited Penguin - December 13, 2015 at 9:50 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Longhorn - December 13, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Excited Penguin - December 13, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by LastPoet - December 13, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Longhorn - December 13, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by brewer - December 19, 2015 at 9:47 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Cyberman - December 13, 2015 at 7:02 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by IATIA - December 13, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 13, 2015 at 4:56 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by IATIA - December 13, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 13, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by IATIA - December 13, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 13, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 13, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Longhorn - December 13, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by IATIA - December 13, 2015 at 5:07 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 13, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 13, 2015 at 6:06 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by IATIA - December 13, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 13, 2015 at 7:30 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by IATIA - December 13, 2015 at 7:51 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 13, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 14, 2015 at 1:21 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 14, 2015 at 1:36 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2015 at 1:44 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 14, 2015 at 2:09 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by ignoramus - December 14, 2015 at 2:57 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2015 at 7:04 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by LastPoet - December 14, 2015 at 9:03 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 14, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by ErGingerbreadMandude - December 19, 2015 at 8:13 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 19, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 19, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by robvalue - December 19, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 19, 2015 at 10:07 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by LastPoet - December 19, 2015 at 10:17 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by ErGingerbreadMandude - December 19, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by robvalue - December 19, 2015 at 11:09 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 19, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by ErGingerbreadMandude - December 19, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 19, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Edwardo Piet - December 19, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by robvalue - December 19, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by ErGingerbreadMandude - December 19, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Tiberius - December 20, 2015 at 1:54 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by ErGingerbreadMandude - December 20, 2015 at 2:01 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by robvalue - December 20, 2015 at 6:37 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by Alex K - December 20, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: Why x*0 = x - by robvalue - December 20, 2015 at 7:36 am



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