Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 17, 2025, 12:44 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
The inherent sleaze of apologetics
#7
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics
(January 18, 2011 at 1:40 am)Godschild Wrote: In the other post you set out three positions and said thats it, you turned a blind eye to other possiblities just so you could say your right and christians are wrong and what you did is just WRONG.

You're discussing the "God and Morality: Separate Issues" post. The "three possibilities" are, assuming both God and objective morality exist, that morality exists outside of God, morality exists because of God, and God is morality (whatever that means). The first suggests that right and wrong would continue to be so if God ceased to exist. The second suggests that morality is a creation of the subjective judgments of another being, which isn't objective. The third is based on circular reasoning. If there are any other possibilities, I don't see them. Ryft rejected #3 and then presented what seemed to be a flowery version of it.

If you wish to discuss this post further, here's the link: http://atheistforums.org/thread-5746.html
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
Reply



Messages In This Thread
The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by DeistPaladin - January 18, 2011 at 1:01 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by Minimalist - January 18, 2011 at 1:24 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by Anomalocaris - January 20, 2011 at 5:31 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by Godschild - January 18, 2011 at 1:40 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by Zen Badger - January 18, 2011 at 5:19 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by DeistPaladin - January 18, 2011 at 9:23 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by Zen Badger - January 19, 2011 at 8:07 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by Autumnlicious - January 18, 2011 at 6:22 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by Jaysyn - January 18, 2011 at 11:22 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by KichigaiNeko - January 19, 2011 at 9:01 am
RE: The inherent sleaze of apologetics - by downbeatplumb - January 19, 2011 at 5:13 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Pre-Suppositional Christian Apologetics SpecUVdust 11 3493 November 14, 2015 at 2:33 pm
Last Post: SpecUVdust
  Apologetics open challenge robvalue 172 52304 October 3, 2015 at 11:23 am
Last Post: Mystic
  "Ultimate" meaning, "objective" morality, and "inherent" worth. Esquilax 6 4276 June 25, 2015 at 4:06 am
Last Post: ignoramus
  apologetics website Nightfoot92 17 6850 November 23, 2013 at 7:34 am
Last Post: Esquilax
  Zeus apologetics Lemonvariable72 33 7770 November 5, 2013 at 4:19 am
Last Post: genkaus
  New Video on Apologetics DeistPaladin 83 29226 February 6, 2013 at 10:15 am
Last Post: catfish
Shocked Mormon Apologetics Tea Earl Grey Hot 6 4188 September 23, 2012 at 2:35 am
Last Post: Minimalist



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)