RE: My Escatological Vision
January 18, 2011 at 11:56 am
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2011 at 12:01 pm by Dotard.)
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Where did I say that I believed that?
I didn't make the claim there are no well meaning intelligent theists. There are many things I am quite intelligent about and there are things I am a numb-skull about. I'm a misogynist and, apparently, a homophobe. Not very intelligent positions to hold. But I hold them nontheless and they stem from my knee-jerk reactionary side and are, I'm guessing, emotion-based. Not rational nor intelligent.
Same goes for you fuks. I'm sure you hold very inteligent positions about many things. The existance of magic, ghosts, spirits (holy or otherwise), witches and the like is not one of them.
Like catholics? Christians? Muslims? Jews? etc. etc. etc. etc.?
I won't treat you with distain or disrespect, I just won't respect such nonsensical magical beliefs nor your position of holding them. Do you honestly 'respect' the beiefs of those who say there is an evil galactic overlord who controls the destiny of our immortal souls? Would you 'respect' those beliefs and allow prayers to this overlord to be a public event before high school football games? Would you respect those beliefs and allow open proselytization in public schools. How about a Scientologist Minister to lead the US senate in prayers? It is not distain or disrespect to speak out against such bullshit when it is perpetrated by christians.
When a muslim says it is his God-given belief to behead the infidel, are you really going to respect that and stfu? To do other wise would be showing distain and disrepect to the man who holds that belief would it not?
I maintain 'respect' is not as black and white as you seem to be making out. Apathy sets in the middle of those two. I won't respect you and your silly beliefs. I respect you as a person, I'm sure your a nice fella, but I will not respect you as a purveyor of the beliefs and religion of ancient, illiterate, desert dwelling, goat herding, ignorant old men.
What if I am seeking only truth without the charity part? Do I still maintain your "Great Respect"?
I may be wrong however I think if you are accepting 'things' as a-priori then that 'light of reason' just got dimmer.
To whom?
Objective? If so then your 'light of reason' just got extinguished.
So if you are a random collection of atoms brought about by collisions then somehow you don't exist?
Put that one back in your ass where you pulled it out of please.
"We" do? My value is relative. Not intrinsic. Just like yours.
You have already done that sir. Quite deluded yourself.
(January 17, 2011 at 10:32 pm)dqualk Wrote: Dotard... poor you, you really believe that you and your tiny group of atheists are the only intelligent rational people on Earth don't you?
Where did I say that I believed that?
Quote:How sad and delusional. I do not make that claim that there are no well meaning intelligent atheists, I am not so arrogant.
I didn't make the claim there are no well meaning intelligent theists. There are many things I am quite intelligent about and there are things I am a numb-skull about. I'm a misogynist and, apparently, a homophobe. Not very intelligent positions to hold. But I hold them nontheless and they stem from my knee-jerk reactionary side and are, I'm guessing, emotion-based. Not rational nor intelligent.
Same goes for you fuks. I'm sure you hold very inteligent positions about many things. The existance of magic, ghosts, spirits (holy or otherwise), witches and the like is not one of them.
Quote:I feel for those arrogant ignorant people who think they are the only right ones,
Like catholics? Christians? Muslims? Jews? etc. etc. etc. etc.?
Quote:.....and treat anyone with differing opinions with disdain and disrespect.
I won't treat you with distain or disrespect, I just won't respect such nonsensical magical beliefs nor your position of holding them. Do you honestly 'respect' the beiefs of those who say there is an evil galactic overlord who controls the destiny of our immortal souls? Would you 'respect' those beliefs and allow prayers to this overlord to be a public event before high school football games? Would you respect those beliefs and allow open proselytization in public schools. How about a Scientologist Minister to lead the US senate in prayers? It is not distain or disrespect to speak out against such bullshit when it is perpetrated by christians.
When a muslim says it is his God-given belief to behead the infidel, are you really going to respect that and stfu? To do other wise would be showing distain and disrepect to the man who holds that belief would it not?
I maintain 'respect' is not as black and white as you seem to be making out. Apathy sets in the middle of those two. I won't respect you and your silly beliefs. I respect you as a person, I'm sure your a nice fella, but I will not respect you as a purveyor of the beliefs and religion of ancient, illiterate, desert dwelling, goat herding, ignorant old men.
Quote:I have the great respect for any man who is truly seeking truth in charity.....
What if I am seeking only truth without the charity part? Do I still maintain your "Great Respect"?
Quote:One can arrive at the conclusion that there is a God using the natural light of reason. Granted that one must accept certain facts as a-priori....
I may be wrong however I think if you are accepting 'things' as a-priori then that 'light of reason' just got dimmer.
Quote:....like you have an intrinsic value...
To whom?
Quote:...and that there is a right and a wrong.
Objective? If so then your 'light of reason' just got extinguished.
Quote: Atheism is a delusion, it says ultimately I do not exist, I am really just random reactions brought about by colliding atoms.
So if you are a random collection of atoms brought about by collisions then somehow you don't exist?
Put that one back in your ass where you pulled it out of please.
Quote:...we know we are of value, real intrinsic value, not just relative value.
"We" do? My value is relative. Not intrinsic. Just like yours.
Quote:blah blah blah metaphysical yadda yadda yadda intrinsic value blah blah blah blah I know blah blah I know blah blah I know blah blah.....
.......I do not delude myself into believing...
You have already done that sir. Quite deluded yourself.
I used to tell a lot of religious jokes. Not any more, I'm a registered sects offender.
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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NO MA'AM
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