Quote:I'll tell you what, I'll began calling it atheistic materialism. Just for you.Another theist who likes to redefine words. Oh boy.
Ok, first off, atheists can have spiritual beliefs. Which is why calling every atheist a materialist would be wrong since it isn't true. I happen to be a materialist but I just wanted to make clear that not all atheists are materialists. An atheist is simply one who does not believe in a god. It couldn't be more simple. If you can't understand that then you're either an idiot or you're in denial. Both Wiki and the good old English dictionary agree with me.
Quote:You probably have not read a book, becasue you cannot read. As I have never once used the belief of masses as conclusive evidence to prove something. I do use it as a way to strengthen my arguementIt doesn't strengthen you're argument. Since it's a lousy point to make. Alot of people believed that the earth was the centre of the universe, were they right about that? Fuck no! So it doesn't matter how many believe in a god, they can still all be wrong as hell. A lie is a lie, no matter how many believe it.
Quote:People have always in history believed in God this is a simple factAnd this proves what? Doesn't matter how many or how long we have held a belief, if it's wrong it's wrong. End of!
Quote:Of course you could just prove to believe, against the evidence, that the first men who had the time to think and record their thoughts did not believe in God, but that would be contrary to the evidence we have.Did you know everyone is born atheist? No baby ever comes out of their mother with a belief in god. And since all you need in order to be an atheist is to simply lack belief in a god, every child starts off as an atheist. Some remain atheist like myself. So I'm willing to bet that atheism has been around much longer than religion.
Quote:You are shifting the burden of proof on to theists,Not really. The burden of proof is on those it's suppost to be on. You claim it, you prove it.
I as an agnostic atheist am not claiming anything. I'm not claiming that there isn't a god, I just lack belief in such a thing, and as a materialist I also lack any belief in the supernatural. I don't believe in the supernatural at all. To me, there is only the material, and so no such thing as gods, ghosts, afterlife, spirits, demons, ect ect.
Any questions?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.