(December 26, 2015 at 2:39 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: If the argument is that the Universe is so complex that it must have been designed, then the designer would also have to be fairly complex, wouldn't he?
If complexity demands a designer, and the designer himself is complex enough to create a Universe, then the designer himself must have been designed and created by something else.
If the designer, in his complexity, does not have to be designed by a creator, then why should the Universe?
If everything but the designer has to be designed by a creator, then that's special pleading.
A design can be caused by random events too. A designer doesn't exactly have to be a person or an intelligent being living in the sky in heaven xD