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My Escatological Vision
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RE: My Escatological Vision
(January 23, 2011 at 12:28 pm)dqualk Wrote: How about this one, if someone rapes a child and truly is pentinent, and if someone did not believe and is truly pentinant, both go to heaven.

You're just proving my point: that no matter what you do, no matter how horrible, if you are truly penitent, you will go to heaven.

'If someone did not believe and is truly penitent...' You mean like an atheist who repents on his deathbed? What if he never believes, and never repents?

Again, it seems very clear that nonbelief without repentance is worse (in God's eyes) than rape and repentance. And that is pretty disturbing.

(January 23, 2011 at 12:28 pm)dqualk Wrote: I sincerely do not bleive you are going to hell, if you are searching for Truth in charity, I really believe you will be saved in the end.

You keep talking about 'searching for Truth in charity' as something God will accept. Do you mean 'charity' as doing good works? Does 'Truth' only refer to 'God's truth?' And does being saved in the end require belief in God, even if you have the 'charity' part covered?

(January 23, 2011 at 12:28 pm)dqualk Wrote: Well a child likely doesnt believe in anything because he lacks the intellectual capacity. That is like saying a rock is an atheist. Also, babies do have some beliefs, for example, a child believes that his mother means to take care of him, and so he has faith in his mother, perhaps babies believe in God. Children are very apt to believe, and will believe in God without any explanation as if it is natural to believe in God.

Beliefs are shaped by experience. If that child is neglected, he will not learn to trust his mother. And if he is never exposed to the idea of God, he will never believe in God.
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My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 15, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 15, 2011 at 9:15 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 15, 2011 at 9:24 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by padraic - January 17, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 15, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 16, 2011 at 1:37 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 16, 2011 at 2:31 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 16, 2011 at 4:25 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 16, 2011 at 5:45 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Strappado - January 16, 2011 at 6:21 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Zen Badger - January 16, 2011 at 7:39 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 16, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Zen Badger - January 17, 2011 at 8:01 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by The Omnissiunt One - January 16, 2011 at 1:51 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 16, 2011 at 8:22 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 17, 2011 at 1:54 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 17, 2011 at 8:38 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 18, 2011 at 1:22 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Welsh cake - January 17, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 17, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Dotard - January 17, 2011 at 9:32 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 17, 2011 at 10:32 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Zen Badger - January 18, 2011 at 5:35 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Dotard - January 18, 2011 at 11:56 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 18, 2011 at 10:17 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 18, 2011 at 10:52 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Jaysyn - January 18, 2011 at 11:13 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Welsh cake - January 18, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 18, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 18, 2011 at 11:33 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Jaysyn - January 19, 2011 at 9:35 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Dotard - January 19, 2011 at 10:52 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Rayaan - January 18, 2011 at 8:24 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by padraic - January 19, 2011 at 12:49 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 19, 2011 at 9:57 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 19, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 19, 2011 at 2:03 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by downbeatplumb - January 19, 2011 at 2:07 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Dotard - January 19, 2011 at 2:52 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Autumnlicious - January 19, 2011 at 2:13 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 19, 2011 at 2:27 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Welsh cake - January 19, 2011 at 3:56 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 19, 2011 at 6:19 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Ace Otana - January 19, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by padraic - January 19, 2011 at 8:16 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 19, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Dotard - January 20, 2011 at 8:24 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 19, 2011 at 10:51 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 20, 2011 at 6:25 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 20, 2011 at 10:51 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 20, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 20, 2011 at 9:22 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 20, 2011 at 9:22 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 20, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 20, 2011 at 10:58 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Dotard - January 20, 2011 at 11:22 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 21, 2011 at 1:19 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Zen Badger - January 21, 2011 at 8:12 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by padraic - January 21, 2011 at 1:29 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 21, 2011 at 9:55 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 21, 2011 at 9:59 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 21, 2011 at 10:03 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 21, 2011 at 2:13 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 21, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Dotard - January 21, 2011 at 2:53 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Welsh cake - January 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by padraic - January 21, 2011 at 6:52 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 22, 2011 at 4:59 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 22, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Anomalocaris - January 22, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 24, 2011 at 9:19 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by padraic - January 22, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Zen Badger - January 23, 2011 at 6:04 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 23, 2011 at 6:48 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 23, 2011 at 12:28 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 23, 2011 at 1:55 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 23, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 24, 2011 at 12:29 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 24, 2011 at 7:54 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 24, 2011 at 1:55 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by OnlyNatural - January 27, 2011 at 3:14 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Welsh cake - January 24, 2011 at 4:09 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 24, 2011 at 4:10 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Welsh cake - January 24, 2011 at 4:26 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 27, 2011 at 3:23 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by DeistPaladin - January 27, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 27, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 28, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by padraic - January 27, 2011 at 6:09 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 28, 2011 at 10:27 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by DeistPaladin - January 28, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by thesummerqueen - January 28, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 28, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 29, 2011 at 4:11 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 28, 2011 at 9:45 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 29, 2011 at 11:34 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 29, 2011 at 2:49 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by padraic - January 29, 2011 at 10:35 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by dqualk - January 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 31, 2011 at 5:47 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Minimalist - January 30, 2011 at 1:08 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by LastPoet - January 30, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 31, 2011 at 7:02 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Zen Badger - January 31, 2011 at 8:19 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by KichigaiNeko - January 31, 2011 at 8:25 am
RE: My Escatological Vision - by Rwandrall - February 5, 2011 at 1:16 pm

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