(December 27, 2015 at 10:26 am)abaris Wrote:(December 27, 2015 at 10:03 am)Brian37 Wrote: I love my liberal atheists and theists but depending on individual, some get too over protective of religion.
And that's where you're wrong. It's got nothing to do with religion, but everything with choosing one's own path through life. I don't have to like what other people value, but in order to protect my own values I have to protect their freedom to do and believe whatever the fuck they want.
That's why I am as opposed to so called anti theists as I am against radical religious individuals. They all want to shove their opinions down everyone's throats.
Nope sorry, you are making the same mistake theists make. Nobody is disagreeing with the right to make any claim you want, nor am I advocating the forced end of religion. I agree if I value my rights I have to value the rights of others. Again, still a separate issue than the ability to demonstrate the credibility of any given claim, on any subject, not just religion. No politician, no business man, no holy person no one, is free from getting offended.
I do call myself anti-theist, just like I am anti unicornist, anti flat earther. Now nowhere in that does it say "use government to force religion out of existence." I will defend someone's right to claim the Yankees won the Superbowl and I also have the right to say "bullshit, the Yankees play baseball".
If religion always got a pedestal and got to be free from being offended, blacks would still be slaves and women would not have the right to vote. I warn you not to hand the government tool of censorship, a loaded gun, to a theistic majority considering you are an atheist.
I know your protecting sensitive people is well intended,but the idea of religion itself does not deserve a blind pedestal. Places that ban you from offending religion are not pleasant places for dissent or minorities of any kind. I am quite sure you are well aware of the stranglehold theocracy has on far too much of the Middle East.
If you cannot separate the right to make the claim, from the credibility of the claim, then you cannot understand why taboos are not a good thing. There are far worse things in the world than getting your claims picked on.