Delicate Offers a Truce

[Brian37]

That is exactly right. Some people like to pretend they're fighting for some ideals sometimes, just to feel better about themselves, even though they don't make any sense. That's regressive liberalism for you, and abaris is hopelessly lost because of it.

 I think our species sensitivity is great, but the liberals, and I am both a social and economic liberal, some like I said, don't understand that the good intent of wanting to protect minorities ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, has the downside of giving cover to the right wing of any religion. 

I agree with the empathy, I simply don't agree with any form of blasphemy laws or taboos. There are ways to silence bigots or marginalize them without outright censorship. If a bigoted group calls for violence they can be arrested for doing so. They can also be sued in court.

My point is everything is case by case and blanket solutions are never a good idea.


The following speech no matter how offensive is legal as it should be. EXAMPLE ONLY

"Mohammed is a pedophile, fuck Mo"

"Jesus fucking Christ" many have seen that meme online.

"Atheists are immoral, they will only lead us to monsters like Hitler and Stalin, you will burn in hell fucking heathen".

Here is what is not legal AND NEVER SHOULD BE.......EXAMPLE ONLY


"Kill all Muslims"
"Kill all Christians"
"Kill all Atheists"

That would be no different being illegal as if you asked someone to murder your neighbor for screwing your wife.

The problem with making blanket solutions when it comes to speech is long term in the constantly shifting powers in "Who gets to decide". 

Calling for an outright ban on any word 100% of the time just in case it might offend someone, could hurt, not just the people who cuss, but also literature like Huckleberry Finn, artwork with nudity, political satire, comedic satire like SNL or South Park or the Simpsons.

It simply is more pragmatic rather than to ban offensive speech, to simply ban calls to violence or acts of violence. If we all got to silence people merely for offending  us, there is not one of us that couldn't think of things that we'd rather not hear.

Civility is not about never getting offended or offending, but what you do when you get offended.