(December 27, 2015 at 6:17 pm)GodisLord Wrote:(December 27, 2015 at 6:11 pm)The_Empress Wrote: Right. The beliefs held by atheists add to exactly zero, and the only thing to know about atheism is that it is a response of "I don't believe you" when believers asserts god(s).So you do not believe in anything? What about air?
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This is a good example. No, I don't believe in air. I don't need to believe in it, because I can test and measure it; I can prove it's there and by what scientific principles it operates. I can show how air mathematically interacts with the universe.
There is no need for belief. If you have to just believe in something that cannot be demonstrated or measured, then it's probably not real.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
