RE: When Atheists Can't Think Episode 1: No Evidence for God?
December 28, 2015 at 6:49 pm
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2015 at 6:50 pm by Crossless2.0.)
(December 28, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Delicate Wrote:(December 28, 2015 at 6:24 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Yes, no one (aside from genuinely disturbed people) act as though solipsism is true. And no, as per Plantinga, we can't rationally demonstrate that solipsism isn't true -- it's simply a basic belief. Please connect the dots for me. How is belief in a god "basic" in the same sense as a belief in an actual external reality? I've mentioned this little nugget of apologetic irrationality before (whether in this or another of your threads -- not sure now) and never heard anything more on the subject.So you admit not everything you believe is provable. That refutes downbeatplumb's claim.
As to whether belief in God is basic, that's a good question but immaterial to this particular conversation.
So far my point is just that not all we believe is provable.
No argument from me on that point.
Whether you deem my question immaterial is irrelevant to me. In one of your threads, you were the one who posted the link to Plantinga's lecture notes, in which he lists both non-belief in solipsism and belief in a god or gods as properly "basic" (not irrational to believe even if it can't be rationally demonstrated). I assume you endorse that position, or else there would have been little point in referencing Plantinga in the first place.
I'd like to know if, in fact, you agree with Plantinga and, if so, how you justify the linkage between belief in god(s) and acceptance of an external reality as "basic" in his sense.