(December 28, 2015 at 6:33 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:We're having a conversation in another thread where downbeatplumb holds to an obviously bad epistemic position.(December 28, 2015 at 5:30 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: How many times and in how many ways in how many threads have you been asked to provide this evidence?
But you don't understand why you're taken less than seriously?Quote:I've been asked for evidence for claims I haven't made or aren't interested in.
I've never been asked to demonstrate, for instance, why I take most atheists to be irrational.
When I provide reasons I see no analysis of my reasons. All I see is rage.
How dare I believe in reasons and evidence!
You're not interested in providing this evidence you say you have for your beliefs? Really? I should think as a born-again Christian you'd be all about that, given your obligation to spread the Good News.
That's the evidence people are interested in seeing.
You do remember your bio information, don't you?
I used to be an apatheist.
Then I heard Richard Dawkins speak, saw how ridiculous he was and I became a born-again Christian. Delicate
Leaving aside what a laughably bad reason that is for adopting a particular religious faith, it's your "evidence" for the truth of your alleged Christian faith that we're waiting on. Can I make this any clearer for you?
Can you prove that x is a basic belief to him? He doesn't even accept that basic beliefs exist.
To make such a case you have to first show that his hardcore empiricism is false. Then you show how foundationalism is true. Then you show how x is basic.
Without the prior arguments, the latter makes no sense to downbeatplumb. Likewise, my arguments for theism won't make sense without pointing out the foundations behind it.
You're asking me to do the latter without the former, which makes no sense.