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*Matthew enters*
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RE: *Matthew enters*
(January 26, 2011 at 8:33 pm)Matthew Wrote: After conversion: I interpret the process described above as being directed and guided by the Christian God. Not speaking directly to me, or entering into my thoughts, or altering my thoughts, or anything of that sort. Simply that the reason that I was drawn towards the Christian God was beings He had drawn me to Himself through the process.

I think Welsh's question was how could God have drawn him to yourself without any type of supposed interaction of some kind. It seems like even the "drawing to himself" might have involved some type of interaction. But this leads to another question: How could a god that does not enter your thoughts or does not speak to you directly (not necessarily audibly, of course) possibly have any sway with you. I think we might be having a hard time understanding how such an apparently dissociated god could hold sway with you. I mean, most fervent Christians will say God speaks to them (again, maybe not audibly), but certainly personally. You simply became a Christian because you thought you were being swayed toward him without hearing a word from him? This is frankly what sent me packing the other way. I heard nothing and felt nothing, so in the absence of evidence for the Bible being a trustworthy book, there was no reason to continue in belief.

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*Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 22, 2011 at 5:03 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Darwinian - January 22, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 22, 2011 at 6:03 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Minimalist - January 22, 2011 at 6:43 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 22, 2011 at 8:13 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Minimalist - January 22, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 23, 2011 at 2:57 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 23, 2011 at 7:45 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Darwinian - January 23, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 23, 2011 at 7:50 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Zen Badger - January 23, 2011 at 8:39 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Zen Badger - January 23, 2011 at 5:39 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by KichigaiNeko - January 23, 2011 at 6:52 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Darwinian - January 23, 2011 at 7:52 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 23, 2011 at 8:07 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Skipper - January 23, 2011 at 8:57 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Ace Otana - January 23, 2011 at 11:33 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by muhtesem insan - January 23, 2011 at 12:21 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 23, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Welsh cake - January 23, 2011 at 8:59 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 23, 2011 at 4:57 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Darwinian - January 23, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Minimalist - January 23, 2011 at 6:19 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by OnlyNatural - January 24, 2011 at 10:31 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 25, 2011 at 2:17 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by muhtesem insan - January 25, 2011 at 2:35 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 25, 2011 at 2:47 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by muhtesem insan - January 25, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 25, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Zen Badger - January 25, 2011 at 8:49 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 26, 2011 at 2:59 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Zen Badger - January 26, 2011 at 5:46 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 26, 2011 at 9:53 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Welsh cake - January 25, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 25, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by OnlyNatural - January 25, 2011 at 9:41 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Welsh cake - January 26, 2011 at 5:14 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by everythingafter - January 26, 2011 at 5:58 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 26, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by everythingafter - January 27, 2011 at 12:00 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 27, 2011 at 12:41 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by everythingafter - January 28, 2011 at 2:32 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by downbeatplumb - January 26, 2011 at 6:58 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Ryft - January 27, 2011 at 4:21 am
RE: *Matthew enters* - by fr0d0 - January 27, 2011 at 2:50 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Watson - January 27, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by thesummerqueen - January 27, 2011 at 3:20 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 27, 2011 at 3:26 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Welsh cake - January 27, 2011 at 3:35 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 30, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Autumnlicious - January 31, 2011 at 3:24 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 31, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Autumnlicious - January 31, 2011 at 7:00 pm
RE: *Matthew enters* - by Matthew - January 31, 2011 at 7:48 pm



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