RE: Alevism
January 31, 2011 at 4:25 am
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2011 at 4:28 am by muhtesem insan.)
(January 30, 2011 at 8:03 am)padraic Wrote: Could you explain what is a sh'ia sufi, specifcally, compared with say a Mawlawi Sufi?Shi'a sufi orders are -like all other shi'a orders- belives that Ali was legal predecessor of Muhammad. And believe in twelve imams.
Quote:From whence did you get the notion that Sufism is pantheistic? That is most certainly not the understanding I got from Indries Shah Sayed ('The Sufis') from my own studies into Sufism, (specifically Sufi lodges in the Atlas Mountains) nor from personal association with a Sufi in London,who belonged to a lodge there. Of course some Sufis may well be pantheists,but pantheism is not a core belief in Sufism,if indeed there is such a thing..I didn't mean to imply that sufism is a pantheist belief system, but it has pantheistic properties. You can't Wahdat el-Wucud (I'm not sure if it's written like this in english too lazy to look it up
Sufi ch'ist? Sufi suf'ist
) is not related to pantheism. (January 30, 2011 at 6:18 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Sounds as far away from islam as mormonism is from christianity. Interesting.Some believe that it is a seperate religion. And name alevi do not come from Ali but alev (flame in turkish).
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