(January 8, 2016 at 12:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(January 8, 2016 at 11:58 am)drfuzzy Wrote: They are all pathetic attempts to show that the book in question was not created by a human being. Another grasping at straws to try to prove that disembodied entities are trying to send us messages that only the inspired and enlightened can find. It's just a bunch of number manipulation, and total rubbish.
Let's think about this for a second. A Creator who created the universe surely can make certain words coincide with other words. The Quran being revealed in period of 23 years....it would be a little hard for a person to make sure words coincide with other words though right.
She also aware of science and that we would come to this age of science, can do this. She can put the chapter of Iron specifically in that number to coincide with science.
Now God can certainly can do that. We know She can if She exists. The thing is when is doing enough of such things go past coincidence into some sort of hint that it is from God? That perhaps we should take a look into the book and see what does it say?
Perhaps not as full out conclusive proof but one that says, hey, you sure you don't want to take a look inside?
There are LOTS of people who think the Bible was written by gawd and full of these "hidden messages". The book is a masterpiece of contradictions and scientific absurdities. Playing silly math games with the text does not help or prove anything, other than people can take a bunch of letters and do goofy things with them.
Doing the same thing to the Quran, or any other writing, is not proof at all. And any deity that needs to HIDE all of these special messages in a book that was supposed to be special in the first place - - that's ridiculous. Any deity that can hide things in a book could have come right out and said them from the beginning. How about "slavery is wrong"? How about "rape is wrong"? If god is going to tell us about science and the universe and physics, why not just tell us about the Solar System up front? None of these so-called "holy books" are worth the paper they're printed on, other than as a historical record of how bronze-age goat herders viewed the world.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein