(January 12, 2016 at 4:50 pm)Amine Wrote: I talked to some guy who debated Matt Dillahunty named Israel Rodriguez and he thinks DNA is the best evidence for God. Here's what he said in full:
"The material evidence that implies God is vast. However, in my estimation, the best piece of evidence is found in DNA and RNA (I referred to this in the first night of my debate with Matt). According to Madalyn Murray O'Hair in "What on Earth is an Atheist?" 1972 pg. 39-40, she stated, "We accept the technical philosophy of materialism. It is a valid philosophy which cannot be discredited. Essentially, materialism's philosophy holds that nothing exists but natural phenomena...There are no supernatural forces, no supernatural entities such as gods, or heavens or hells, or life after death." If this is the case, how do we explain the existence of information? Information is, "The communication or reception of knowledge or intelligence. The attribute inherent in and communicated by one of two or more alternative sequences or arrangements of something (as nucleotides in DNA or binary digits in a computer program) that produce specific effects. A signal or character (as in a communication system or computer) representing data. Something (as a message, experimental data, or a picture) which justifies change in a construct (as a plan or theory) that represents physical or mental experience or another construct" (Merriam-Webster's Dictionary). DNA is said to be "the genetic information system of the software of life" (Hubert Yockey PhD. Physics and Information Theory). This proves that we are not simply "material," but there is also an "immaterial" aspect to life. DNA and RNA are material while the information in these molecules is immaterial. Where did this genetic information come from? And more importantly, what produces information? This points me away from the Big Bang Model of the universe and the Theory of Evolution. It points me to a superhuman controlling power that is outside of space and time. The Bible tells me this is God. I have more to say about this, but I will await your response because something tells me I'll have to explain how this is not the "god of the gaps.""
Still a bullshit argument for the reasons stated above in my prior post. Everyone claims science props up their religion. Not only that any and all god claims still suffer the problem of "which one" but also the problem of infinite regress.
The universe can be both finite and infinite without a super magical cognition, just like a up and down, cycle, on and off can repeat. On is finite and off is finite, but both can cycle forever.
QM is quite fine with an infinite quantum cycle without a magic sky hero. While we don't know if it is something or nothing. It looks like "all this" is fluctuating between something and nothing, like light switch.
Rise and fall, in and out, up and down, on and off, do not suffer infinite regress because top and bottom fluctuate.
Even if you draw a line across a standard piece of schoolbook note paper, that line is finite but can does have in infinite number of integers in it.
As soon as you plop in a infinitely complex sky hero, then you need something even more complex to explain that sky hero, then something even more complex to explain that one and so on and so on and so on. It explains nothing.
