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The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.
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RE: The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.
(January 13, 2016 at 12:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Mystic, part of me actually sympathizes with you, because I feel like you are wrestling nightmarishly with something you will never be able to pin down.  It seems like it is eating you up inside.  Don't let these thoughts keep you up at night!  Just live life as it appears in front of you.  

First, the moon and people are not analogous.  It's like when people compare metabolism to the engine of a car.  Sounds like a neat comparison, but humans are in fact, NOT cars.  It's an oversimplified and inaccurate analogy.  

Second, I feel like you don't understand use of the word "value" when it comes to objective versus subjective.  You can measure the size of the moon, and you can measure how tall I am. Those are objective values.  My family subjectively values me because they love me and would be upset if I died.   I subjectively value the moon because I think it's pretty, and helps me to see when I am driving at night.  Understand?

Your family valuing you is a measurement of their biological/psychological connection to you.  While it doesn't have the convenient units of measurement, like you'd find in measuring the moon, it can actually be measured, otherwise, you wouldn't be able to compare things you value.  

The 'subjectiveness' is just what we call the scope.  Your value (a measurement) only applies to you're brain in the moment.  But really, that's just common sense for all measurements.  If we measure the moon, our measurement only applies to the moon at the time we measure it.  The circumference of the moon is unrelated to the circumference of an orange.  But for some reason, we don't consider that subjective.  

I think the problem is we hold our brains/selves in some magical esteem, like we're not just a pile of matter behaving according to the laws of physics like everything else.
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RE: The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves. - by henryp - January 13, 2016 at 1:30 pm

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