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The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.
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The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves.
(January 13, 2016 at 3:02 pm)wallym Wrote:
(January 13, 2016 at 1:56 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I think I understand what you mean; that the value of anything is alway subjective, it's just that some units of measurement are more precise than others?  But if three people all measure the moon with the same tool, the same way, in the same units, at the same time, they would all get the same objective, numeric value.  On the other hand, I could say - I love the moon, it is so majestic, I can't wait for it to rise every night.  I can't fall asleep until I see it in the sky.  And you could say - eh, I don't really care much about the moon, I never even notice it's there.   That's subjective, as in we assign a different degree of value to it.  

The trick, I think, is that you view your love of the moon as measuring the moon.  But really, you're measuring your own brain.  Whereas, I'd be measuring my brain.  That's why both of our statements can be fact.  According to your brain functions, you do love the moon.  According to mine, I ignore the moon.  

A good example might be distance from the moon.  You measure your distance from the moon, and it's 238,000 miles.  I measure my distance from the moon, and it's 239,000 miles.  And like 'value' the scope exists only for me in that moment.  As the next moment I fall down a mountain, and now I'm 238,899 miles from the moon.

It's really not that important. But I think by only dealing with things as facts, rather than objective/subjective/objectively subjective, etc... it might make the conversation less convoluted.

Holy shit! You fell 101 miles down a mountain; are you OKAY?! Just kidding...I understand what you mean, and I agree it would streamline things. [emoji41]
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The Ultimate Value and the signs of it in ourselves. - by LadyForCamus - January 13, 2016 at 9:29 pm

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