(January 14, 2016 at 12:09 pm)athrock Wrote:(January 13, 2016 at 5:43 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: You have it mostly correct. Evangelicals are worse because they make the moronic assumption that we don't accept your claim because we haven't heard about it at all or enough, or just haven't evaluated it properly.
Some have heard and disagree, but it may be that some have heard the claim, have evaluated it properly, and simply don't want to abide by it.
I spend a lot of time around atheists, I have yet to meet one of these special flowers who believes in jeebus but is just playing neener neener. You must introduce me to one.
(January 14, 2016 at 12:09 pm)athrock Wrote:Quote:To use your analogy, you are throwing a life preserver that promptly sinks to the bottom.
Bad logic. If it sinks, then it's not actually a life preserver, is it?
Ding ding ding! That was sort of the point.
(January 14, 2016 at 12:09 pm)athrock Wrote: And just out of curiosity, how is it that the message that theists extend (I don't really care which flavor you choose - Bahai, Jehovah's Witness or Sourthern Baptist) actually kills the recipient of that message? (I've never really understood the "religion ruins everything" thing...sounds like a marketing slogan for people who don't think much beyond soundbites.)
When you waste a single second praying when you could actually do something, I consider that pretty awful. When you waste this one chance you have at life prostrate towards something that you merely wish existed, that's terrible to me. When you teach children that ignorance is preferable to knowledge, that willful ignorance is a lauded state, and that those that spend their lives being inquisitive, asking tough questions, and finding out are morally inferior to you, that's repugnant. When you avail yourself to the terrible misogyny, xenophobia, racism, and homophobia that is rife within religious texts and clerics, then I consider that a pretty scathing indictment on religion.
It puts up a damn fine effort at ruining everything it touches.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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