RE: Hell
February 12, 2011 at 10:43 pm
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2011 at 12:27 pm by OnlyNatural.)
(February 11, 2011 at 7:35 pm)Matthew Wrote: a belief that is arrived at immediately by God's revelation rather than by argument.
I'd love to know what form these revelations take, and whether or not there could be a more likely alternative explanation for them.
(February 11, 2011 at 7:35 pm)Matthew Wrote: So when you say that belief in God is not rational, do you mean your own personal subjective standard of rationality? If so, why should it make any difference to me whether you think that my beliefs are rational? In other words, why have we had a conversation about rationality?
Like I said:
OnlyNatural Wrote:a core element of rationality is that rational beliefs correspond most closely to the actual structure of reality, and are grounded in as much evidence as possible.
The more this is true about your beliefs, the more rational they are. Is this really a subjective standard of rationality? I think you understand perfectly well what 'rational' means, except when it comes to your religious beliefs. Rationality must be twisted or suspended to accommodate such beliefs.
(February 11, 2011 at 11:08 am)Matthew Wrote:OnlyNatural Wrote:The point is that the basic belief of 'there is a God' is not necessary.Not necessary for what?
For anything. We can explain pretty much everything in a naturalistic way at this point in our history. And if there's something we don't yet understand, there's no need to fill in those gaps with God. We'll probably discover more about the world in the future. I think our tendency to jump to conclusions and look for an absolute answer that explains everything is probably because we're uncomfortable with uncertainty.
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