RE: The Problem of Good
January 16, 2016 at 9:34 am
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2016 at 9:37 am by RobbyPants.)
(January 15, 2016 at 4:05 pm)orangebox21 Wrote:(January 15, 2016 at 1:50 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: That's circular. You've justified sin with God's mercy and justice, and now you're justifying his mercy and justice with sin.No, I'm showing that God has a purpose for sin. God has used the existence of sin to show His mercy and His justice and there is no clearer picture of that than at the cross where His wrath was poured out onto the Son and the righteousness of the Son was poured out onto believers. This is the power of the death of Christ and the means of salvation to all who believe.
It is. You flat out said that it's not without purpose. That without it, we wouldn't know God's justice and mercy.
(January 15, 2016 at 1:21 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: I'm not sure what you mean 'need' but certainly it has been shown that sin is not without purpose. If sin did not exist in the world then we would not know God's justice nor His mercy.
...or are you saying there's some other unstated purpose? If so, what is it?
(January 15, 2016 at 4:05 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Sure, I get that you don't believe, but this is the logic you used to argue that it is merciful to abort a child within the context of the Christian worldview. Are you withdrawing that argument?
No. I said unequivocally that it is the logical conclusion of Christianity. I'm saying it's the uncomfortable argument they should be making, but shy away from. They "solve" this by saying they don't have the authority to kill or something something God's plan.
...of course, if God's plan can be circumvented by free will, it's not much of a plan.