(January 17, 2016 at 1:39 am)pool the great Wrote: Yeah, no shit Sherlock, of course staring is rude.
We are talking about women's clothes and how it is supposedly objectifying a women for looking at her when she dress sexy.
(January 17, 2016 at 1:53 am)pool the great Wrote:(January 17, 2016 at 1:44 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Consciously suppressing sexuality, as well as many other natural instincts - at least to a certain extent - is what our civilization has been built upon.
If you see you mate's attractive girlfriend - do you shamelessly hit on her, risking social backlash? Or do you - in fact - suppress your sexuality, for the sake of social norms and just beat off to her FB photo later?
I think we all know how our sexuality works - and that it needs to be controlled, or else we revert to behaving like a bunch of apes, fighting to death over the right to f*ck.
I agree with you that sexuality has to be controlled to an extend, but it is never okay to suppress sexuality. Never.
Shaming men for looking at women that dress sexy is suppressing sexuality which is sexist by all means, furthermore the supposedly claim that women are being objectified because of how men's sexuality work and therefore men should alter how their sexuality works is so sexist it's baffling.
(January 17, 2016 at 1:55 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(January 17, 2016 at 1:45 am)pool the great Wrote: Whoever said women always dress sexy to impress guys?
Furthermore, I do not agreeing that it is objectifying to look at a women that dress sexy. It is how men are wired, it has nothing to do with objectifying. Men are attracted to how women look.
You are correct, men were wired to be sexually attracted to the way women look. Again, no one is saying otherwise. What we're saying is that staring at a girl you see out somewhere or whatever, is rude. Just as it is rude to stare at anyone. And in that sense, it does become objectifying because you are being disrespectful to her as a human being by continuously being rude enough to stare as though it were just some thing... and not a person who deserves more respect than to be treated rudely like that.
I've talked to my husband about this many times, and he says that when he sees a very pretty girl, he simply acknowledges and appreciates the fact that she's pretty, and then goes on about his day. He doesn't sit there and stare and start thinking dirty thoughts. It is entirely possible to just go on about your day and not get creepy.