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List of people who have no interest in joining a religion, ever
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RE: List of people who have no interest in joining a religion, ever
(January 18, 2016 at 9:24 am)robvalue Wrote: I've noticed a major sticking point that commonly occurs in theist/atheist debates. A religious theist often seems to think that if they can convince the atheist that god is real and their religion is "true", then the atheist would automatically convert to the religion.

This is just completely wrong. My refusal to join any religion has nothing to do with whether it is true or not. I find the whole idea ridiculous, and I am simply not interested. So even if you did manage to convince me your religion is the "real one", I wouldn't care. I'd just be a theist with no religion, someone who believes in god but does not worship it.

I have got the feeling a lot of people here share this view, so I thought it would be interesting to collect some names. So if you have the same stance as me, please post here! I thought it could be useful to point people to when they are making the very basic mistake I have outlined. Some people seem literally incapable of understanding this, and I don't know how much clearer I can make it. The more open minded theists however seem to understand this just fine.

I am not sure how many atheists will really seriously consider this, but here is my take.

I believe in God existence hence I am a theist
I do not follow Christianity
I do not follow Islam
I do not follow Hinduism
I do not follow Judaism
I do not follow Buddhism
I do not follow any religion I may have left out in this list or you may come up with
I do not follow Atheism

I do like reading the Bible
I do like reading the Koran
I do like reading the Vedas
I do like reading religious scriptures
I do also read Atheistic philosophy and/or points of view

I am not against Science and yes I do read/watch science books/videos, etc.   But Science does not have answers for everything, and in many aspects will never, for example, meaning of life and yes, I do ponder on this, because I have right to do so.

I do not like fundamental Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Buddhist, Atheists, etc.

I do not feel theists can be fundamentalists, because it has a simple basic principle of believing in God existence, there should be no other dogma.  I do not consider religions to be theistic
because they have dogma.

And even if you think theists can be fundamentalists, they would need dogma for it, and therefore, are not theists anymore.

Overall after reading and talking to all types of individuals, there is a core of beliefs/views/morals/etc that are consistent across all religions and atheism (with the exception of God existence
in that case).

I agree with one of Buddha's point when asked which religion and religious book is too be considered the paramount to follow.  After deep thought, he replied "Take those points from all texts that will benefit humanity and ignore those that don't"

Yes, I am crude.  I also will say what seems vulgar to be vulgar.  There some atheists that are vulgar.  There are also some religious leaders who are vulgar too.  I do not like people (Atheist/religious) who try to defend others just because they happen to be believing the same ideals/views/philosophy/etc

It is not only religious people that despise some Atheists. Other Atheists do not like some of their own.  Why ? Because there are bad Atheists that make Atheists look bad.

Most Atheists are very unwilling to have open dialogue even though they make high claims that they more open than religious people.

I do not consider Atheism as a good option.  At best, Atheism has good arguments against dogma in religion, but beyond that there is NOTHING.  

Yes I have seen bad in religion and the same bad I have also seen in Atheism.  Atheism did not offer to me a better alternate.

I believe in God existence thru personal experience, which is hard to prove to others.  I do not expect anyone to believe it nor do I care.

I am not here to change your mind, and I am not expecting it to happen nor wishing for it to happen
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RE: List of people who have no interest in joining a religion, ever - by ktrap - January 18, 2016 at 12:50 pm

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