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[Redbeard The Pink]

Quit it with the subjective "arguments" and "logic" based on personal experience, Pool.

There are statistics, and there is data and evidence of women still statistically being of lower wage, at the very least on average, than men.

Stop arguing from personal experience and stop arguing using the argument from ignorance.

Personal subjective experience is not evidence.

Man, people are about to get shitty with me about this.


The "wage gap" argument is one of the reasons you and I had that argument a while back about why "feminist" isn't a label I want. What you're describing is an "earnings gap," and there are lots of factors that play into it. Men tend to work more hours and take riskier jobs with more demands, hence the higher pay grades of those jobs. When women work those same jobs for the same hours, they make the same amount.


In pretty much all of the Western world, it is illegal to pay a woman less than a man for the same work, and the stats reflect that. Women as a broad group still earn less than men during their lifetimes, but women who make the same choices and work the same jobs as men make the same pay.


Yes, I'm sure that there are still instances where employers knowingly discriminate against women, but it's far from systemic, at least in America and its peer countries. The fact is that if you work like a man, you'll earn what a man earns nine times out of ten. The reason for the earnings gap is that there are lots of women in the numbers who either don't work at all or whose work suffers because of children and/or their choice of job and lifestyle.


Oh look, I seem to have lost my umbrella.