RE: Women's clothes?
January 19, 2016 at 9:23 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2016 at 9:29 pm by Heat.)
(January 19, 2016 at 9:09 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:Okay and? One article doesn't magically change the rules of an argument. Also, I never stated there was no gender pay gap, I simply said based on the rules of an argument we are to assume there isn't one by default, because we have no reason to believe there is a gender pay gap in either direction(men, women), until proven so.(January 19, 2016 at 7:56 pm)Heat Wrote: Default position is that there is no pay gap, it's the same as demanding demonstrable evidence that there is no God.
Irrational posted a good recent article on the pay gap on pg. 63 of this thread.
I will however, check the article out.
I think that what Pink said is important though. And that's that men tend to take different jobs than women, so it's hard to judge. Also I agree with her and highly doubt there is any instances where someone is directly getting paid less for the same exact job and hours based on gender, I mean that simply seems fallacious, it would be illegal surely, yet feminists act like it is common practice and accepted in society. No one would accept this. If this existed it would be very easy for women to take their pay check, then take their male co workers pay check, hold them up in comparison and point out the obvious differences and inequalities within them. I will look where the evidence points, obviously, nothing i'm saying is definite, however I think if you use some logic, it's not hard to see there may be some skewing of the statistics.
If we take what's been claimed many times as exactly what is true word for word, there would be numerous instances of women comparing their check to their co workers. Is it possible that they are comparing the same work from different states and it appears higher for men because of tax difference(because they are skewing the stat. and not showing men's as after tax and womens as before)? Is it possible that the stats are not exactly what they say and they are comparing people in the same line of work, from different positions? These are all questions I would raise out of logical reasoning, however again, I am not stating these as facts, and will look at the actual information and the validity of it to decide for myself.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
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