(January 21, 2016 at 12:14 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So are you here to have any sort of actual discussion or just to have a one-man circlejerk?
I'm not sure I can quite understand what it is you're saying. I'm a christian, and I have a religion to respect. I don't have a life to devote to a "no" God, as if that were even humanly possible.
Nevertheless, the OP I believe explains it all. I figured someone would say this after the ignorant RaphielDrake posted his ignorant position, but nonetheless, it seems quite clear to me. As I said, I waited about a full month to return to the forum and post the thread, so you should basically gather from it that, I wish to say something about/aganist/for atheism productively, and feel that in doing so I will enlarge my understanding. But as you can see from this, there is really a far greater bit to it than just that alone. I'm posting under numberous reasons, but mainly only one primordial one. Why you believe that atheism is a plasuable position to hold, given that I genuinely believe in God. But belief in God is not based on evidence my dear friend, belief in God is all the evidence one needs in itself. It isn't believing in god and proving he exists, because that would be like asking a self-contradictory question. It's more of why you believe that you cannot believe in God. I sincerely wonder about this question. And I bothered to take the time to explain it to you so for that you should be grateful. Do other people struggle with this question like I do? To be honest, I've sincerely doubted it for about 18 years.
So it is a discussion, I wish I could pose the OP to be more short and to the point, but it really is.
A: Atheism is not religious and has no epistemologicial logic to base upon itself.
B: Atheism is not regarded by those who believe in God to be a valid position.
C: (really there are many different ones but the obvious is not obvious to some people) Atheism is invalid, hateful, and equally presupposive. It INCITES HATRED.
D: It should be advoided with ones life
the conclusion only makes sense, advoid it with ones life. But why would I pose these questions or inquiries to you, since my OP addresses the issue much more obviously?
Please do not pay attention to this post, it is specificially for the person who asked me to respond.