Seeing red

[Neo-Scholastic]

I can describe it in multiple ways...You appear to be asking me to make a commitment to an ontological stance depending on which form of description I choose...I can provide multiple descriptions without being obligated to solely choose one and only one.

If all anyone can offer are various ways of talking about the problem, then they aren't actually proposing anything at all, just metaphors and analogies. This isn't an issue of description. Descriptions are passive take-aways. They do not have the causal power that you seem to think they have.

The question is at hand is reduction. It's about proscription. This is to say "what makes events play out as they do?" and "what makes things what they are?" Attempting to reduce causal power in either direction, towards purely the material or purely the immaterial, always leaves something out. If someone reduces "Hey, Jude" as sound waves that eventually fire neurons, he leaves out the cause of its meaning and affect. If he reduces "Hey, Jude" to just its meaning and affect he leaves out the cause of its actualization.