Global Warming - The New Socialism

[Kyuuketsuki]

I know what you said Just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't just trying to start a fight.

OK though I stress once again I was referring to some pro-GW groups as w**kers (OK I think the deniers are generally CT nuts or have an agenda too but it's an imperfect world).

That's the thing, it should have been big news, but we don't hear about it. As far as I know it's true ...

And unfortunately that comment tends to put you with the CT nuts because there is no two ways about it ... if this genuinely was true it WOULD be big news, HUGE!!!!! Think about it man.

... if you follow this link, there'll be an article and an image of the petition they signed. Here is the link - http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs...niers.aspx

I'd already seen that page and pretty much dismissed it because I couldn't verify it as reputable (I could be wrong but I'm just saying I couldn't) but what's really interesting is a comment made by someone further down by someone called Lonnie Anderson, "This is the same fake petition that has been circulating the internet for years." (she supplies a link) ... she gets panned for claiming this but I'm not so sure. As I've already said the complete lack of anything published in reputable journals or mainstream media to my mind pretty relegates this claim to the loony bin.

Just for the record, I used to believe it all too. I thought it was undeniable. Then I started finding not just one site or book, but many refuting global warming. And instead of trying to avoid going into the science, they went straight to the science to make their point. However, I'm happy to be wrong.

Interestingly I looked up Freeman Dyson on Wiki (not the best reference I know but a good starting point) and it says that he broadly speaking accepts global warming although he has issues with the current models (fair enough). I also checked the names of several scientists (PhD's only ... I presume you were aware that only 9000 of the claimed signees had PhD's?) and they weren't known to Wiki ... now maybe I just haven't been thorough enough but I really (and I mean really really really) smell a rat here.

This petition, as far as I can tell, is complete and utter bollocks and that will remain my stance until someone actually provides a shred of real evidence (you know a publication in a reputable journal, some kind of reaction for the mainstream media, that kind of thing) .. as I said in the first instance the general scientific consensus appears to be the global warming is real and it is largely caused by human pollution and this petition appears to be nothing more than a fake.

Kyu