(January 31, 2016 at 1:48 am)Minimalist Wrote: So you have appropriated for yourself the ability to determine who is and who isn't a "serious scholar," Danny. How very presumptuous of you!
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The theologians have a vested interest in trying to push this shit back as early in time as they possibly can. Are they serious "scholars" or serious "believers?"
Yeah straw man. I never said that scholars don't debate the dating of manuscripts. I never said there was a consensus on that. And what does P52 have to do with what I was saying? Nothing, that's what. It could be dated to the fifth century and it wouldn't change P66 and P75's significance and dates. All available information on these two particular manuscripts dates them to around 200AD. With an upper limit of perhaps 225AD. Even if we take the upper limit they still had to have diverged at least 30 years in the past; and prior to that they were copied and circulated as well.
The scholars you just quoted aren't arguing that the synoptic gospels were written later than 90AD are they? No, and in fact the link you just gave me, if you'd bothered to read it, concludes that P66 was likely written within the late-second/early-third century.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke