(January 29, 2016 at 11:24 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:(January 29, 2016 at 11:18 pm)Dystopia Wrote: Why do we need to get rid of religion? Is it even possible? I doubt so. If we haven't even got rid of people who believe the earth is flat, let alone religious people.
That's a good point. Thank you for adding some further details to that point of view.
I could say my bit, but I feel I should stay out of it for now - I don't want to make it seem like I'm pushing my own agenda. Let us talk about anything else you guys want and maybe we'll get back to religion in one way or another later on.
I'm sorry if I'm being awkward. I can be like that.
To briefly answer your questions however:
1) Because it's not only useless, but actually bad.
2) Of course it's possible. All you have to do is figure out how to effectively talk people out of their beliefs. - At least that's my take on it.( I'll stop adding further caveats to any one future point I'll be making regarding how sure I am of what I'm saying, as that would be very tiresome indeed.)
Is religious belief inherently bad? Was there anything harmful about certain sects of Native Americans worshiping the ground they lived off of and believing in the inter-connectivity of all members of the animal kingdom? I would disagree with the statement that all religion is bad. I would agree, however, that organized religion is bad. Organized religion can be (and has been) used by a ruling class with ulterior motives (obedience, war, etc.)
As to the question of eradicating religion, I do not think it is possible. I personally believe that religious and spiritual belief is natural to human beings. Let's make an absurd hypothetical situation: almost the entire world is somehow destroyed. Humans start over. No established language, no established cultures, and obviously no religion. We're essentially rewinding the clock about 5,000 years. Day 1 for the New Humans. They have no clue what anything is. They begin to realize that the big glowing thing in the sky is giving them warmth. They realize that certain things will grow only under the glowing thing's light. They realize that without it they will die. So they collectively decide that this thing that dictates their fate deserves their respect and worship. They begin offering it gifts and prayer/song to show their respect and to make sure that it returns to them every morning. The first religion is born. But really, you don't need to make a post-apocalyptic hypothhetical. This is exactly what happened in ancient times. For this reason, I believe religious belief will always exist.
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