Brainstorm

[Losty]

EP. I have posted a serious response to your thread and you have ignored it. If you make a thread, why are all your responses just bitching about the non serious posts. I would like it if you addressed my question please. I'd be glad to quote it if you can't find it.

I will gladly do so if you apologize for repeatedly going off-topic and attacking me.

You do not have to apologize for the attacks to the extent that they were ad-hominems, I believe that mistake takes care of itself. But I sense some personal problem you have with me which is hijacking the course of the thread. I expect nothing but the same type of honest, kind and reasonable behaviour from you that I showed towards everyone up until now in this thread, if you want me to partake with you in this conversation. 

The whole point of the thread is to brainstorm ideas. I believe we cannot do so if we use dishonest tactics to disagree with someone or if we post totally unrelated content in order to attack people we have a problem with.

1) I haven't attacked you in this thread. Not even once. Not even a little bit.

2) I haven't taken this thread off topic a single time and the only posts I've made that were even remotely off topic were in response to something you and Kit had been talking about.

And no, no I will not apologize to you, firstly because I haven't done anything wrong, and secondly because of this....

@EP I want to apologize to you specifically because I let my emotions get the best of me and I was unnecessarily mean to you, I'm sorry for that.

I don't accept your apology...

my boldyness

An apology to Thena would seem most appropriate.

I don't believe in apologies.

So, how's that working out for you?

What, being rational about a meaningless concept? Pretty well actually.

... as if apologies are irrational ....


... pegged.

They are but I don't want to argue about it.

They may be effective, that I agree with. But I won't accept something as true based on its utility function alone.

You guys are missing the point. Apologies don't make any sense at all in and of themselves. They convey nothing. If you need to tell a person you won't wrong them in a similar manner in the future, that's fine, but call it that and leave it at that. There's nothing else you should or could tell them if you wrong them. I think the term apology, as it is right now, means some other things as well, demeaning and unrequired things that we accept because of tradition, not reason.