(February 1, 2016 at 4:40 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote:(February 1, 2016 at 4:33 am)Losty Wrote: Maybe, but there are atheists who are against abortion, their are atheists who are against gay marriage, and believe it or not there are atheists who wish to force their ideas and beliefs on other people.
For me atheists being against abortion or gay marriage are like Yeti, I only heard about it, but seeing it I consider improbable. And sure there may be atheists wanting to force their ideas onto others. They should be criticized like anyone else.
(February 1, 2016 at 4:33 am)Losty Wrote: So if this is your standard for deciding that religion is bad, you might find that you actually think human beings in general are bad.
Religion also robs of freedom by indoctrinating, it could sap happiness from life as it is only transitory period and it's in essence against freedom. Maybe in some civilized countries religious authoritarianism is held in check by secular authorities but it is not the case where I live.
As for humans in general, I would say that most are simply indifferent not bad.
How would getting rid of religion not rob freedoms or force your opinions/beliefs onto others?
Also, I have spoken to atheists on this very forum who are against abortion and/or marriage equality.
If you think no atheists wish to rob people of their freedoms to make their own choices and have their own beliefs, simply read back through this thread where I have interacted with Kitan and you will see that some atheists do want to push their beliefs on others.