Brainstorm

[Excited Penguin]

I think you should be allowed to be religious. I don't think you should be allowed to talk about certain aspects of it, namely the hateful parts of it that make you consider certain groups of people your enemy(in certain cases everyone who doesn't adhere to your religion). Can you reasonably tell me how that's wrong?

Because your subjective opinion about what's hateful is just that---hateful.

I would say that your idea that people's freedom of speech should be curtailed like this is hateful. In your scenario you are doing the same thing to religious people.

We counter hateful ideas with better words and ideas, not with force.

I am ready to have my mind changed about that, it's not like it's set in stone. 

My thinking goes something like this. There are a lot of people out there you won't as yet reach with words and ideas. If that were the case, we wouldn't need the police or the military to protect us. We could all be pacifists. That is not the case - you'll agree, certainly. Therefore force does need to be applied at times. Of course, you only counter force with force, but disallowing people to promote hate speech for now, would simply be a matter of preventing crime, not so much of limiting free speech. I believe a statement like "kill all the jews" is wrong. You believe so as well, presumably. That some wouldn't agree with us, doesn't really matter. I support going to war with people who would continue killing jews for being jews, despite my thinking it's wrong to do so. And if the majority of the world thought this, I would actually side with the minority who thinks this is wrong and then go to war myself.