Seeing red

[bennyboy]

OFC redness is an idea, ofc its a facet of certain kinds of ideas.  Your mind does alot of work with ideas...there's not an -actual- apple in your head when you think about one.  If it worked like that there wouldn't be any hunger in the world.

Okay, and what are the physical constituents of this idea? In what way should neurons be organized to allow us to see red, and more importantly-- if color is an idea, why doesn't selective brain damage not cause us to see new colors that don't exist?

I mean, I can (and have) heard sounds that don't exist anywhere else. I've seen forms that don't exist anywhere else. I haven't seen colors other than those I can normally see with my eyes, even under the influence of drugs or anything else.

(I'm not sure if you wanted me to address the "will of dna" comments.  If you want to give dna will for the conversation then rocks get will, piles of leaves get will, everything gets will.  Will becomes a floating placeholder for nothing, and specific to no particular example, including ourselves.  "Will" is, apparently, equivalent to chemistry and nothing more.  How hard do you think I would argue against that?  I'd simply suggest that will -is- nothing but chemistry (and physics) but rocks still don't have it.  Certain interactions, certain reasons, your comments on mind apply just as well for will.)

Why are you talking about rocks all the time?

DNA has evolved which expresses itself in the form of organisms and their behaviors. It has a will in the sense that the behaviors dictated by the DNA will actually come into conflict with the will of a human agent, and win.