Welfare - are you for or against it and why?

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Governments are there to uphold laws, and protect the rights of the people.

Governments are there only as bodies of organized power. Anarchistic governments ruling by sheer influence/money are unlikely to establish any laws, as law is not necessary to keep order (only power and influence). If a government has no power to uphold whatever laws it chooses to create: only idealists (might) follow the laws. A tyrant's government that keeps order by strangling the freedoms of its populace is likely to establish many laws and keep things running according to them by harshly punishing any that do not comply.

Governments are an organization that requires 'power' and 'influence' to function. They are not there to uphold laws and protect the 'rights of the people', regardless of what they may in fact accomplish.

They are not there to interfere with the economy and give out money to people.

True. Regardless, they can if they want to.

If there should be any welfare program, it should be run by a private charity, to ensure that the red tape of bureaucracy stays as far out of the picture as possible.

Too many welfare programs waste money and don't close loopholes because they think they have a neverending supply of cash from the government; this attitude isn't prevalent in the private sector.

Because all welfare programs set up by one business (government) will fail whereas other ones work without any loopholes and flaws? If an attitude of the people running a system is the only problem with a system... then it is salvageable by replacing the people in charge or 'fixing' their attitude.

Red tape is in (just about?) every bureaucracy. Seems to me the deeper issue here is morons running a government, which can be cured by improving educating practices (that have their funding cut just about every year if I am to believe the papers)