(February 2, 2016 at 8:59 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:(February 2, 2016 at 8:09 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, I don't believe any of those things.I'm not surprised, and I would be surprised if you did believe those things. But I'm sure you are aware that these are common Christian teachings. Traditionally, it is one which has denigrated the female gender, and it has denigrated the general good nature of humanity.
Quote:Do you want my honest answer?
I feel much more disrespected and demeaned by what you're saying to/about me here than I have ever felt by Church teaching. Which is 0.
Well, I hope you don't take it personally by me. Have I presumed wrong that you accept, as a good Catholic, the doctrines of the oldest and wealthiest old boys club ever known to the world? It seemed a logical conclusion, and if I'm right than you should not be mad at me. If I presumed wrong, then please forgive my bad presumption.
On your avatar photo, I was playing the devil's advocate (so to speak), which I thought was apparent enough. No, I do not at all regard you with such contempt, and if I didn't respect you then I wouldn't go out on such a limb to level with you on the issues of accepting the authority of those who determine the rules for any Christians! I was just trying to point to the darker perspective of that Vatican club. I know they haven't been quite so hung up about showing a little skin, like the Puritans and the Stepford wives Protestant sects, but I'm still curious as to how, or by what process(es) one can decide what codes to live by without rejecting the authority of the Vatican officials entirely. I can accept what sounds right to me by atheist philosophers and scientists, but religious authority is supposed to be an all-in-or-out game, or their is no valid authority - am I right or wrong on that?
The problems I listed describe conservative Christianity in general, not necessarily modern Catholic beliefs.
If you care, can you tell me if you have any use for the decisions made by your church authorities?
Hi Hanky, I addressed this on the Hall of Shame thread just now. I appreciate what you're saying.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
