Seeing red

[bennyboy]

Actually, with the gate in question, you could only get "red apple"..it's not actually checking for an apple or for red, but the conjuction of those two things being true..it will only yield a useful output- when "red apple" or c is true (which is to say that both a and b are "on"), but again it could be checking for anything, abstraction.

Yeah, okay, it's an AND gate. But the inputs and outputs are both arbitrary.

If mind is comp they can represent anything, it would be a universal machine.

Why should they be said to represent anything? What do the magnetic states of my computer's RAM represent, in and of themselves? It could be a visual pattern, or sound, or anything else. You need something which will establish context, but you want the RAM to BE that which provides the context. Circles don't work, dude.

Could be chance, could be the environment, could be genetics, could be more and more machinery above and below in varying states, sure...could be a combination of all of the above. My money is on the latter.

Your money is on the ghost in the machinery, then, since ALL those things represent nothing more than the interaction of states. What gives them THEIR context? Where does the ability of some states to establish context on other states come from originally? The Big Bang?