(February 3, 2016 at 4:49 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: You say god doesnt exist and besides he's an asshole. Well I didn't sleep with your sister and besides she's a terrible lay.
Why would you need to fuck a women to know if she is bad at sex? If you have their boyfriend or husband or video tape that acts as your evidence. Metaphorically speaking.
Again this is the same stupid logic people use when they say "You didn't see it personally".
SCIENTIFIC METHOD can measure the unseen, by what it does to the material around it we do see. It is why while we cant physically see the center of a black hole, we can mathematically deduce what happens to that material when sucked in.
We cant physically see what happened before the microwave background radiation. Jut just like a 500 piece puzzle the gaps can be filled mathematically. Just like we were not around at the beginning of evolution, we have fossils and DNA that prove evolution.
No different than a murder investigation. The suspect is never around when the police are called, but through investigation, they find fingerprints, weapons, and today, cell phone and computer records.
But even back then, the Epicurus thought experiment was a damned good guess, even though he couldn't have know scientifically what someone like Hawkings knows today "A god is not required".
Atheists don't assign the attribute "all" to a god, they do. We merely take their example, and tell them why the logic is not matching up with what we observe. It simply makes much more sense with what we know today to say humans merely like what they believe when they make god claims.
Based on the parameters THEY set, there is no way one could call such a being moral, even if it did exist, which it does not in any case.


