(February 3, 2016 at 5:59 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(April 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm)The Piper Wrote: “Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
God is willing and able.
Is he able, but not willing?
Yes, no.
Is he both able and willing?
Yes.
Then whence cometh evil?
Free will
Is he neither able nor willing?
No.
Then why call him God?”
Redundant question.
Opinions on this riddle?
God enables us to have free will, meaning that some will do evil and some won't. It's our choice, God is allowing us to determine our fate and he is very patient. Evil will be dealt with in his time.
So...then why bother to pray for anything if God is keeping his fat nose out of everything? That makes no sense.
Yep, they answer with simplistic rhetoric missing lots of other factors that play into life.
Ultimately what it amounts to, is as soon as they have bought the naked assertion, they can move the goal posts and give you any answer they want. But then forget about, ignore, or never think of the question you just asked.
The riddle of Epicurus, isn't coming from a religious viewpoint, it is simply pointing out the errors in logic. Every single one of those answers they gave just now have huge flaws by themselves.
"God is willing and able"...... Really? 50 million deaths per year worldwide from everything you can die from?
"Is he able but not willing"...... "Yes and no"...... If a parent had three kids and was selective about which one they fed and let the other two starve, Child protective services would take away all three kids and have the parent arrested.
'He is both able and willing"........ Great, then why does the character seem to read like a selective deadbeat? If I fail to do my job at work, I get fired.
"Then whence comes evil" "Free will".....Ok so if a 5 year old boy or girl gets raped and murdered by a child molester, this god is more concerned with the "free will" of the perp than the safety of the 5 year old? Again, would anyone hire a baby sitter to sit their kid if the baby sitter had such a arbitrary "I can do what I want" attitude?
"He is neither able or willing".....Yes because he does not exist. God claims are a product of human's imaginations reflecting their own fears and narcissism.
"Then why call him God" "Redundant question"........ Yep because believers keep making illogical claims based on naked assertions, yes we keep asking why call such a selective arbitrary deadbeat a god.
And to add to your question, "Why pray" EXACTLY, that act alone defies the alleged "trust" of this fictional boss they claim is real. Seems to be a bunch of superfluous drama to claim to have a plan, then want or need people to grovel to you after you already told them "don't worry". The real reason humans pray is they want to placate their own insecurities and want to thank themselves for their good luck. But they are not talking to a sky wizard.


