'choosing' thoughts.

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'choosing' thoughts.

~~Edwardo Piet~~

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RE: 'choosing' thoughts.

March 17, 2009 at 1:23 pm

(March 17, 2009 at 11:20 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:
(March 17, 2009 at 11:09 am)Giff Wrote: Also the free will and randomnes is proven by evolution and nature. Mathematcis and Quantum mechanics are also showing that things are random and how likely things will happen can be calculated with diffrent equations.

Just because something is unpredictable doesn't prove free will.

Which is entirely my point Kyu. Determinism may make free will impossible but I do not see how indeterminism IMPLIES it and gives evidence for it.

And until I see any evidence for free will whatsoever I will assume there is no free will.

Where is the evidence that the randomness of physics implies that we can freely steer our own way AWAY from this randomness if we so wish, anymore than we could steer it if it wasn't random and instead was predetermined completely?

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'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 4, 2009 at 5:45 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Kyuuketsuki - March 4, 2009 at 6:11 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 4, 2009 at 6:19 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Tiberius - March 4, 2009 at 6:27 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 4, 2009 at 6:34 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 5, 2009 at 8:21 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 5, 2009 at 8:33 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 10, 2009 at 10:20 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Kyuuketsuki - March 11, 2009 at 5:13 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 10, 2009 at 10:34 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 10, 2009 at 11:11 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 11, 2009 at 11:43 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 12, 2009 at 9:27 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 12, 2009 at 10:44 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 13, 2009 at 9:24 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 9:25 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 15, 2009 at 8:40 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 15, 2009 at 7:36 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 13, 2009 at 9:31 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 5:24 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 13, 2009 at 11:06 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Tiberius - March 14, 2009 at 10:23 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 10:32 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 11:11 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 13, 2009 at 11:22 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 11:51 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 13, 2009 at 11:54 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 12:03 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 14, 2009 at 12:12 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 12:19 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 14, 2009 at 12:22 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 12:28 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 14, 2009 at 12:46 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 14, 2009 at 10:06 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 15, 2009 at 6:18 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Tiberius - March 15, 2009 at 2:53 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 15, 2009 at 8:50 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 16, 2009 at 2:01 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Tiberius - March 16, 2009 at 4:47 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 16, 2009 at 8:35 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 16, 2009 at 8:57 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by padraic - March 17, 2009 at 5:22 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 16, 2009 at 7:00 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 16, 2009 at 7:11 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 17, 2009 at 8:07 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by athoughtfulman - March 17, 2009 at 8:57 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Giff - March 17, 2009 at 11:09 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Kyuuketsuki - March 17, 2009 at 11:20 am

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 1:23 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 6:36 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by leo-rcc - March 17, 2009 at 6:57 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 7:05 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by leo-rcc - March 17, 2009 at 7:08 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 7:21 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by leo-rcc - March 17, 2009 at 7:30 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 7:39 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by leo-rcc - March 17, 2009 at 7:47 pm

RE: 'choosing' thoughts. - by Edwardo Piet - March 17, 2009 at 8:41 pm

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