(February 24, 2011 at 7:53 pm)apophenia Wrote: absurdism, I guess I would need a fuller exposition to consider. I'm unconvinced that you would so cavalierly dismiss the adjusted reality that eternal suffering might present.Yeah, I get that one alot. This is why I so cavalierly say it that way. Would you convert to communism (if you arent already one) because someone threatened to torture you for the rest of your life? Or would you act like you converted to avoid punishment? If you heard me telling people "worship me or I will take you down to my torture chamber and torture you." Would you trust any promises I made about anything else? This is all about integrity. I would NEVER trust any promise of salvation that had a threat of eternal hellfire tagged onto it. I think most people are affected by it this way, and most of those who are Christian are Christians for many different reasons, but mostly for two main reasons; Family tradition and fear of Hell. Fear of hellfire is the first thing thrown in my face when I tell people I do not believe, yet when asked they will swear up and down that they are not afraid of it.
(February 24, 2011 at 7:53 pm)apophenia Wrote: And to be more philosophically precise, I'm not certain that what I understand absurdism to be given your presentation does not commit the fallacy of the stolen concept.- Self-refuting ideas (stolen concepts) are ideas or statements whose falsehood is a logical consequence of the act or situation of holding them to be true. - What is there illogical about the conflict between the human tendency to seek inherent meaning in life and the human inability to find any. Have you discovered the inherent meaning in life?
(February 24, 2011 at 7:53 pm)apophenia Wrote: Regardless, such considerations will have to await another day; I have committed myself to conducting a round table discussionon the various philosophies of truth next week, and I barely understand them myself. (Oy vey, what did I get myself into!)
ARGH..just condense it and say something like; "I have discovered that the taste of an empty bowl of rice is the same as the sound of one hand clapping! Meditate on that BITCHES!!"
