(February 25, 2011 at 3:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: 'Time' cannot restrict the atemporal - because atemporal = timeless/ unnafected by time.Again frods this is make believe stuff. No time is no change, beings have to experience change to be beings. Thinking, acting, creating, doing anything requires a before and after. Imagining I am atemporal and looking at the whole of time is impossible as I would need to imagine my non existence as a being, whilst at the same time existing with internal processes enabling me to observe. The whole concept is wooly, xtian philosophical babble; to put an imagined god into a place where he can't be touched by reason nor science. But there is no analogy that gets you there...even star trek.
Before, after, any mid point are our time restricted references. Atemporaly all of these points merge into one. Assume we are atemporal entities. You and I look at all time on one glance. There is no future or past for us. All of those temporal events appear at once. > There is no time.
Jees... did you guys never watch Star Trek!!!
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.